To Trump Or Not To Trump, That Is The Question

 

Well, that is a tough question. I’ve thought about it for a long time. Never in my life have I seen people who are a lot like me so torn. I’m Christian and conservative and the greater portion of my friends are too. If I expand my sample to my Facebook acquaintances who are proportionally about 90% Christian and conservative as well, I find the exact situation. They run from Trump-Is-The-Answer to Never-Trump. Worse, they are mad at those other Christians who are opposite of them—I mean really upset.

I’m a great microcosm of this newly divided group. I say newly divided because we have over the years, for the most part, been on the same page about presidential elections. Sure, we liked our options better some election cycles than others, but we have usually landed in the same place. Though we have been both bewildered and upset with Republican leadership multiple times, we have overwhelmingly voted for the Republican nominee since Ronald Reagan. I mean several of us were skeptical that John McCain shared our values, but we compared him to Barrack Obama and felt totally at peace with the lesser-of-two-evils argument. But that argument isn’t cutting it for all of us this time around.

When I say I’m a great microcosm of this group, I mean I have both thought about voting for Mr. Trump and not voting for him. Like others in this group, I’ve NEVER thought of voting for Mrs. Clinton. Still, I’ve never thought Mr. Trump was the answer, I’m positive that he shares neither my Christian nor my conservative values, and he lacks the temperament to be a leader. So while I’ve never for a moment thought he’s just what our country needs, I was at one point deciding to vote for him. At other points I had decided I would not.

Why would someone who has been a Christian as long as I have suddenly vacillate so much? Why would someone who has been so sure of the right answer in every presidential election of his lifetime be all over the place this time? Even worse, why would someone who is a pastor, however unreasonable this expectation may be, not have the explanation this election cycle? In my defense, I am not alone.

The problem with deciding is not one of a lack of intelligent arguments. Both sides have given great fodder for thought. Here’s the best, from my point of view, from each side:

Vote for Trump

  1. The Supreme Court.

Most believe that we have a better chance of molding the Supreme Court a more conservative direction with Trump. Not that the Supreme Court has done either Christianity or conservatism much good in my lifetime, it is still important since there will likely be a few vacancies in this term. We know that Mrs. Clinton will nominate people who continue the moral collapse of our nation. With Mr. Trump, there is at least a chance. I fear he will fail us here, perhaps by nominating his liberal sister, but it is still a shot with none on the other side.

  1. The Lord Doesn’t Advance His Work Through Government, So Vote for the One Least Antagonistic to Christian Work No Matter His Or Her Morals.

That makes a lot of sense. The Lord works in spite of government and almost oblivious to it. Think how little Jesus had to say about Rome. He never did any political crusades. When I first heard that argument from a pastor in Ohio it really got my wife and I thinking.

  1. Mr. Trump Has Never Said Anything Against Parental Rights.

I’ve not actually heard this one, but it concerns this father of six homeschooling children very much. Mrs. Clinton and her it-takes-a-village-to-raise-a-child attitude strongly feels that the state owns the children. She has believed it her whole career. Even Mr. Obama hasn’t attacked on this front. Perhaps he wanted to and ran out of time, but Mrs. Clinton will likely make an attempt even if Congress, I believe, will keep her in check on this one.

On the other hand:

Don’t Vote for Trump

  1. In a Choice Between Two Evils Choose Neither

When I first heard this from some pastor friends in Ohio, it really got me thinking again. I already alluded to how we have been comfortable in previous elections with the lesser-of-two-evils argument, but perhaps there was a clear lesser of two evils. Can we argue that there must always be a lesser of two evils that we must pick? What if our choices were Hitler and Stalin? Would the theory hold? Some of us have sensed a Hitleresque attitude in Mr. Trump with his trust-me-I-will-fix-it attitude with no details but himself. On the other hand, Mrs. Clinton could be the Stalin with her far-left ideas. (I realize there’s a little exaggeration here, but you get the idea).

  1. Christians Will Lose Their Moral Authority In Supporting Mr. Trump.

A missionary friend shared an article that is far better than what I could say (here). He reminded us how all of us lambasted President Bill Clinton for his lies and affairs in office. We all said then that he lost his moral authority to be President. Now we support Trump? When the next President that we don’t like does greatly immoral things, how can we say anything after Mr. Trump has bragged on his adulteries in this election? This may end up being the most important issue of all as it actually undermines Christianity itself and its voice in our generation.

  1. As Long As We Stay In A Two-Party System, We Need To Force The Republican Party To Get Back On Track.

We are blowing an easy layup this election. Mrs. Clinton is one of the most beatable candidates the Democrats have ever put up with her email scandal and various other gross illegalities. The Republicans need to know that we are true to our principles and not their party. They had better put up a candidate whose principles we can support. In other words, the decades ahead are more important than one 4-year term.

So What Are We To Do?

I’ve seen Christians I respect on both sides. I’ve seen pastors I admire on both sides. I’ve seen missionaries who really love the Lord passionately on both sides. I suspect those who read this article are made up of some on both sides.

Ted Cruz got it right—vote your conscience. I’ll only add that we carefully seek the Lord. I’ve made an emphasis in my ministry for soul liberty and this is a great place for it. It’s time we realize that those who love the Lord are greatly divided here and both sides have good arguments, so the attacks on each other should stop. We should stop accusing those who support Mr. Trump with being immoral. We should also stop threatening those who cannot with supporting Mrs. Clinton.

To Trump or not to Trump? Just take the Lord into the voting booth with you and pray that He will make something good out of our disastrous choices.

 

 

 

trump1

12 thoughts on “To Trump Or Not To Trump, That Is The Question

  1. One thought I want to leave here. If one person sins and brags about it, how does that make them more guilty than the one who hides it?

    In His love, Jane Smith

      • Really? I have followed the campaign very closely. Never I have heard Mr. Trump brag or boast about adultery. And if I find that is true…I would much rather have an opportunity to address such sin, because he revealed such, than the person that hides their sin.

        That said, I can trust an old drunk in jail who admits his sin more than those I know of sitting on the pew who adorn themselves with the outward appearance of righteousness, but inwardly are as wicked as they come. How many preachers can you name that have fallen in adultery, but remained in a position of leadership for far too long.

        Cruz touts himself as a Bible-believing Christian, yet his sinful behaviors are excused by those who are enamored with his conservative moniker. That group is more concerned about conservatism than Christianity.

        “Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.”(1 Timothy 1:13) Cruz professes Christ and the Scriptures; hence, he is willfully sinning because he knows the truth. He so fits the profile of “Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.” (Luke 18:10-12) If the shoe fits, Mr & Mrs conservative,…then you must wear it. To whom much is given…much is required.

        The so-called conservatives and the liberals in congress have done little, to nothing, to address the needs of “We The People”. They are more concerned about their elitist positions and salaries than they are about the citizens of our nation.That is why you have polished, professional politicians who ran as Republicans that are now switching their affiliations. One such is a former Marine who apparently has forgotten about duty and loyalty. Thank God I never had to serve in a war zone with this man as I would doubt seriously that he would have my back.

        Children? Trump has not also spoken on a plethora of other things. Why? Because no one person can cover every issue. And the focus must remain on those issues that can thwart the Clinton dynasty. So if voting one’s conscience is determined by allowing the Clinton dynasty to continue, you will have no need to hear Trump’s words about children, because her Supreme Court appointees will rob us all of our responsibilities as parents.

        Bottom line: Third Party candidates do not a chance under our current system. The choice remains definitive…Trump or Clinton. One must also consider what Pence brings to the ticket. All of the Bible believing Christians I know personally in Indiana speak highly of him. Pence adds those things in which Trump is lacking. Hillary has shown a reluctance to hear the Gospel or even utter the words: Jesus Christ or Christians; Pence would be in a great position to witness to Trump. I have the greatest hope that as president, Trump will see the Gospel working in the life of Pence and so be moved to want to know Jesus.

      • Brother Dave,

        You mention the adultery of Mr. Clinton and of unnamed Pastors around the nation, both of which are terrible, but you seem to imply that Mr. Trump is not an adulterer. Is that a correct understanding of your comment?

        Biblically, Mr. Trump is indeed an adulterer.

        We should let the Scripture speak:

        “For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man” (Romans 7:2-3).

        Furthermore, the Old Testament Law condemned a man to die if he committed adultery (Leviticus 20:10).

        Lastly, a man that commits adultery damages even his own soul:

        But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul. A wound and dishonour shall he get; and his reproach shall not be wiped away” (Proverbs 6:32-33).

        So, working backwards, it is clear in Scripture that a man who commits adultery destroys his own soul and his reproach shall not be wiped away. It was a sin once punishable by death in God’s Levitical code. Finally, and most importantly, the husband and wife are bound to each other so long as they live, and if they remarry while the other spouse is still alive, they commit adultery.

        Since Mr. Trump is on his third wife, he is an adulterer, Scripturally. In addition to that, it is a well know fact that Mr. Trump committed adultery on his first wife with the woman that became his second wife.

        While it is true that Mrs. Clinton is a wicked woman, it is no less true that Mr. Trump is a wicked man.

  2. This whole thing has really bothered me too this year. Saying I’m a big-time conservative would be an understatement. My first paying job was interning for the Quayle 2000 campaign. I’ve volunteered for the republican in every presidential election since then.
    But I just. Can’t. Do. It.
    Not this time.
    There have been a few times during this election cycle when I’ve said “I’m going to vote for Trump. I’m not going to like it, but I’m just going to do it and not talk about it.” And then Trump does something again that shows he more manifestly unfit to be president of the united states than anyone who has ever run for public office.
    If someone who acted like him was my kid’s principle or scout leader – I would be doing everything in my power to get him fired or get my kids somewhere else. I can’t throw my efforts into electing someone like that for president.
    Right now my plan is to vote for Gary Johnson. Not that I think he has a chance (although you are kidding yourself if you think Trump has a chance at this point) and not that I like him (I’m certainly not a libertarian). I just think if he gets on a stage with Trump and Clinton – the “lesser of three evils” thing is an easy pick. Also, I live in a state that isn’t in play anyways so voting against the two party system is the best way to make my vote count.

  3. Pastor Reagan,
    I hope this comment will give you and your readers something to think about.

    Here’s my question: “Should I even vote as a Christian?” Further, what does the Bible say?

    As an IT professional by trade, I would say to anyone who votes electronically, your vote doesn’t count. Sorry, but whoever controls the programming source code can control elections. Also, most electronic voting centers utilize outdated technology (some over 10 years old), and they often aren’t caught up on security technologies. Furthermore, when the voting information is transferred to the central server, many states do not encrypt that information which leaves it susceptible to interception and editing before being counted. You can do a google search on electronic voting fraud and be in awe of the results. Here is one article – the video is what is worth watching: http://www.mintpressnews.com/214505-2/214505/

    Many people, Christians included, have made an idol of politicians and the political process. We hope to vote in the right guy so that he can make the changes that we think should be made. The problem is that the Bible promises that “evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived” (II Timothy 3:13). Christ taught that before He comes again, the world would be like the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37). Genesis 6:5 says that “the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” This is what we have to look forward to as the rapture draws closer, and this is true, even of America. Most, if not all, politicians are the show ponies for wicked men pulling the reins, and they will do as those wicked men say because they themselves are without God and going in the direction of an one world antichrist system. Because our country is on a downward spiral toward evil, the candidates will be increasingly evil. This year we have Mrs. Clinton who has a reputation of being evil that she is proud of, and Mr. Trump, though he never smoked, doesn’t drink, and didn’t do drugs, rejoices in his sins also. If we look again at Scripture with some commentary, I think it becomes clear: “These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look (Clinton, Trump), a lying tongue (Clinton, Trump), and hands that shed innocent blood (Clinton, perhaps Trump), An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations (Clinton), feet that be swift in running to mischief (Clinton, perhaps Trump), A false witness that speaketh lies (Clinton, Trump), and he that soweth discord among brethren (Clinton, Trump)” (Proverbs 6:16-19). Why do we Christians involve ourselves in electing people whose character God hates?

    Christians are to live by faith. We please God by faith (Hebrews 11:6), we walk by faith (II Corinthians 5:7), we are to live as strangers and pilgrims in this world while looking for God’s country, by faith (Hebrews 11:13, 10). We, as Christians, are our own nation (I Peter 2:9). Our affairs, therefore, should be heaven-ward. Since we are seated in heavenly places (Ephesians 2:6) and our affections are to be above (Colossians 3:3), we should be above this false illusion that somehow choosing between two different lost people to “lead” us is a God-honoring, acceptable tradition. Remember when the children of Israel said they wanted a king? God told Samuel that the people had rejected God’s rule. They did not want God to reign over them (I Samuel 8:7). In this same chapter, God, by the mouth of Samuel, tells them how bad their kings will be. He ends that section with this verse: “And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day” (I Samuel 8:18). This is the hypocritical predicament of American Christians with politics. We choose our leaders, then cry out to God when we don’t like them.

    What then are we to do? How, as Christians, can we make a difference and make our voice heard? By obeying Scripture! Put down the ballot card, pick up a gospel tract and your Bible. Then go tell people about our Lord Jesus Christ until someone gets saved. Once you lead someone to Christ, start discipling that person from Scripture and teach them how they too can witness for Christ, then repeat the process. If every Christian did that, we might end up like Paul and turn the world upside down (Acts 17:6).

    Nick
    I Samuel 12:24

    • Your comments are incredibly interesting. I’ve never wanted to be a conspiracy theorist, nor cry foul when I don’t like the results, but I have wondered about fraud in the election. Also agree that Christians mistakenly often put too much stock in our political process. Still, I do believe since the powers that be are ordained of God, and we have the type of government we have, that it would be a scriptural idea to vote. Your counsel is still worthy, in that after we vote, we should keep our heads on straight.

  4. Pingback: Trump, Clinton, and the Race to the Bottom | The Reagan Review

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s